Number 3s

GrayMouser · 07-13-2010, 12:43 AM

I see that Toy Story 3 got good reviews, which led me to wonder about other ____ IIIs.

There are some sequels that are as good or better than the original- Godfather II; Aliens- but the third in those series both sucked.

Any other number threes that keep up to the mark?

Gwaimir Windgem · 07-13-2010, 01:00 AM

Just wanted to pop in and say:

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Originally Posted by GrayMouser

There are some sequels that are as good or better than the original . . . Aliens

No. No, no, no, no, no, no. Aliens is not nearly as good as Alien.

That is all.

**Jonathan** · 07-13-2010, 01:09 AM

I just come to think of how I love the two first Jurassic Park movies but scoff at the third one.

BeardofPants · 07-13-2010, 06:05 AM

Alien & Aliens are two totally different movies. Both awesome, in their own way.

GrayMouser · 07-13-2010, 10:11 AM

Yea, "Alien" is a horror-movie-in-space whereas "Aliens" is a war-movie-in-space; both good but I prefer No. 2.

Number 3: THEY KILLED NEWT!?!?!

- all you need to know

Number 4 you gotta wonder if they understood the basic concept of the series: "Ripley kicks Alien butt. " To turn her into a human/alien hybrid and then not show her going hand-to-hand with an alien....

OTOH Terminator 1 is much better than T2 (and again, T3 sucks.)
But in T2, like A3, how do you miss this?- you've got a terminator that can take any shape, and you never show duelling Arnolds?

Jurassic Park I see as a steady flow downhill.

EllethValatari · 07-13-2010, 12:17 PM

Pirates of the Carribean 3!

If you're okay with calling LotR a trilogy, then RotK...amazing!

Gwaimir Windgem · 07-13-2010, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardofPants

Alien & Aliens are two totally different movies. Both awesome, in their own way.

Certainly; as GM notes, Alien is a horror, and Aliens a war movie. Certainly Aliens is very good as a war movie, but (to my mind) Alien is even better as a horror movie.

BeardofPants · 07-13-2010, 05:22 PM

Well, aren't we all agreeing fairies?

T2 is so better than T1. Heathen.

Gwaimir Windgem · 07-13-2010, 06:59 PM

GM, I think this thread may hold the prize for "Fastest De-Railed." Go me.

Draken · 07-14-2010, 04:55 AM

Police Academy 3! There's one series that just kept getting better!

Just kidding.

***Eärniel*** · 07-27-2010, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan

I just come to think of how I love the two first Jurassic Park movies but scoff at the third one.

Loved the first one, (absolutely adored the soundtrack!) could digest the third one reasonably, but the second one was just bad. Too many plot errors and that had to be the worst prepared expedition I have ever laid eyes on. All they lacked were T-shirts with 'I'm a dinosaur snack' on them.

I hear they are once again considering a fourth one.

**Jonathan** · 07-27-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Eärniel

Too many plot errors and that had to be the worst prepared expedition I have ever laid eyes on.

Yes, isn't that what the first film lacked, i.e. dinosaurs eating people on an almost industrial scale?

In addition, the sequel had no fences, two T-Rexes (plus a baby one) and a Godzilla-like trip to San Diego. Just the things that yours truly would drool over as a kid

Film #3 would have been so much better if the American soldiers at the very end would have engaged the dinosaurs in an all-out combat :P

***Eärniel*** · 07-27-2010, 04:55 PM

I dunno, I dislike the TV and movie tendency of having dinosaurs or other animals do anything -down to risking life and limb- to chase and butcher humans. It often doesn't make any sense for them to do that, it's just sloppy plotting.

Which is also a poor point in the third one, I readily admit, I'm pretty sure something as big as a spinosaur had better things to do with his time than charge at puny humans all the frigging time.

I actually like the limited role of the army in the third movie. Movies with army men against dinosaurs are often darn unrealistic, and then I don't mean that in the very obvious way. The animals are always far too bloodthirsty, and the army guys always far too stupid.

I want creatures to have some motivation for gobbling up people. I'm afraid I'm not the proper target audience for the usual monster movies.

Gwaimir Windgem · 07-27-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Eärniel

I want creatures to have some motivation for gobbling up people. I'm afraid I'm not the proper target audience for the usual monster movies.

Seriously? How much motivation can a non-sentient lifeform have? There's pretty much "Threatened my pups," "Entered my territory," and "I'm hungry."

***Eärniel*** · 07-27-2010, 05:53 PM

At least that is some motivation. Sometimes there's not even that, or the reaction of the animal is waaay out of proportion. If you have creatures willing to fall off high cliffs, forgo hunting more suitable-sized prey, abandon fresh kills so they can chase a tiny shrieking human they never even seen (so don't even know whether they're tasty), then how did those animals even survive for so long?!

You can't tell me that every big animal out there, imagined or otherwise, finds humanity just so irrestible to nibble on that they must attack us at all costs.

Gwaimir Windgem · 07-27-2010, 07:17 PM

Well, apparently, we taste like bacon, so I'd find us positively scrumptious, were I a dinosaur.

07-13-2010, 12:43 AM	#1
GrayMouser Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ilha Formosa Posts: 1,567	Number 3s I see that Toy Story 3 got good reviews, which led me to wonder about other ____ IIIs. There are some sequels that are as good or better than the original- Godfather II; Aliens- but the third in those series both sucked. Any other number threes that keep up to the mark? __________________ Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them? "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals."- Winston Churchill

07-13-2010, 06:05 AM	#4
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in my underpants Posts: 10,512	Alien & Aliens are two totally different movies. Both awesome, in their own way. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

07-13-2010, 10:11 AM	#5
GrayMouser Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ilha Formosa Posts: 1,567	Yea, "Alien" is a horror-movie-in-space whereas "Aliens" is a war-movie-in-space; both good but I prefer No. 2. Number 3: THEY KILLED NEWT!?!?! - all you need to know Number 4 you gotta wonder if they understood the basic concept of the series: "Ripley kicks Alien butt. " To turn her into a human/alien hybrid and then not show her going hand-to-hand with an alien.... OTOH Terminator 1 is much better than T2 (and again, T3 sucks.) But in T2, like A3, how do you miss this?- you've got a terminator that can take any shape, and you never show duelling Arnolds? Jurassic Park I see as a steady flow downhill. __________________ Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them? "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals."- Winston Churchill Last edited by GrayMouser : 07-13-2010 at 10:14 AM.

07-13-2010, 12:17 PM	#6
EllethValatari Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: United States Posts: 205	Pirates of the Carribean 3! If you're okay with calling LotR a trilogy, then RotK...amazing! __________________ Elleth Valatari "We have come from God, and inevitably the myths woven by us, though they contain error, will also reflect a splintered fragment of the true light, the eternal truth that is with God. Our myths may be misguided, but they steer however shakily towards the true harbour, while materialistic 'progress' leads only to a yawning abyss and the Iron Crown of the power of evil." — J.R.R. Tolkien

07-13-2010, 05:22 PM	#8
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in my underpants Posts: 10,512	Well, aren't we all agreeing fairies? T2 is so better than T1. Heathen. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords Last edited by BeardofPants : 07-14-2010 at 03:59 PM. Reason: fingers didn't properly transcribe brain

07-13-2010, 01:09 AM	#3
Jonathan Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,464	I just come to think of how I love the two first Jurassic Park movies but scoff at the third one. __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written. ☻

07-13-2010, 06:59 PM	#9
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,229	GM, I think this thread may hold the prize for "Fastest De-Railed." Go me. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

07-14-2010, 04:55 AM	#10
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07-27-2010, 04:55 PM	#13
*Eärniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Nîn in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 11,842	I dunno, I dislike the TV and movie tendency of having dinosaurs or other animals do anything -down to risking life and limb- to chase and butcher humans. It often doesn't make any sense for them to do that, it's just sloppy plotting. Which is also a poor point in the third one, I readily admit, I'm pretty sure something as big as a spinosaur had better things to do with his time than charge at puny humans all the frigging time. I actually like the limited role of the army in the third movie. Movies with army men against dinosaurs are often darn unrealistic, and then I don't mean that in the very obvious way. The animals are always far too bloodthirsty, and the army guys always far too stupid. I want creatures to have some motivation for gobbling up people. I'm afraid I'm not the proper target audience for the usual monster movies. __________________ Join the Unfinished Tales Discussion Project! There are still many chapters to choose from.

07-27-2010, 05:53 PM	#15
*Eärniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Nîn in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 11,842	At least that is some motivation. Sometimes there's not even that, or the reaction of the animal is waaay out of proportion. If you have creatures willing to fall off high cliffs, forgo hunting more suitable-sized prey, abandon fresh kills so they can chase a tiny shrieking human they never even seen (so don't even know whether they're tasty), then how did those animals even survive for so long?! You can't tell me that every big animal out there, imagined or otherwise, finds humanity just so irrestible to nibble on that they must attack us at all costs. __________________ Join the Unfinished Tales Discussion Project! There are still many chapters to choose from.

07-27-2010, 07:17 PM	#16
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,229	Well, apparently, we taste like bacon, so I'd find us positively scrumptious, were I a dinosaur. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

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